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software what email providers do you use/suggest?

joined feb 22, 2023

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Do not induce vomiting if swallowed.

joined feb 22, 2023

currently operating a cock.li account, among others, but I'm looking for something a little more... professional, for general use.

paid is fine, but then it had better be good.

posted 2/26/2023, 5:29 pm

joined feb 20, 2023

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pre-ground french roast

joined feb 20, 2023

I've been using ProtonMail combined with Google Domains for a few years now. I've been very happy with it; I have multiple domains on one central account, great filtering abilities, the app and web portal work well (I prefer them to gmail by a large margin).

posted 2/27/2023, 12:43 am

joined dec 4, 2022

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joined dec 4, 2022

i still use gmail, but curious if anyone ever paid for https://hey.com. i feel like there was a lot of buzz around them when they first started but i haven't heard much since

posted 2/27/2023, 1:00 am

joined feb 21, 2023

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joined feb 21, 2023

Been using Fastmail for many years. Fair price for what it provides, the webmail is decent too, but obviously you can use your own if that's your thing.

All round great service, support if you need it too.

posted 2/27/2023, 12:46 pm

joined feb 17, 2023

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A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing. - Emo Phillips

joined feb 17, 2023

I currently use Ionos.com, signed up with them back when they were still 1and1.com and first started offering to the public. Used to have a great deal since it came with webspace and email. The last 5 years though they have really tanked in their offerings and price isn't what it used to be. So I would not recommend them.

quoting coffeeofdoom:

I've been using ProtonMail combined with Google Domains for a few years now.

I have been considering moving my email to Proton mail along with my domains (mainly since I dont use the webspace anymore), but I dont like the limit they have on email address, and they don't specify if thats per domain or per account. Since I have 4 domains with active email that I would want to move, I also fall outside the 3 domain limit. Not sure why I didn't think of keeping my domains where they are and just changing the record though, so I might decide to do it anyways. What is your overall experience with them though, and do you use their other services (calendar, storage, VPN)?

posted 2/27/2023, 4:21 pm

joined feb 20, 2023

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pre-ground french roast

joined feb 20, 2023

quoting RevD:

What is your overall experience with them though, and do you use their other services (calendar, storage, VPN)?

I only use email. I use Mullvad for VPN, Google Calendar, and I have a fairly extensive home server for storage (encrypted zips of data important enough for off site backups go into Google Drive and a USB stick at undisclosed relative).

For the email setup the domain limit is only impactful if you need the ability the send from that domain, which I do not for most of mine.

I have wildcard addresses setup in Google Domains for everything, the ones that aren't aleady in ProtonMail forward to an address on one of the domains I do have in ProtonMail.

I've never had an issue with this setup, but if you need to be able to send from all your domains then I could see that being a potential problem.

posted 2/28/2023, 5:49 am

joined feb 17, 2023

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A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing. - Emo Phillips

joined feb 17, 2023

quoting coffeeofdoom:

I've never had an issue with this setup, but if you need to be able to send from all your domains then I could see that being a potential problem.

I am considering a hybrid setup where I move my primary domains over to Proton and keep my spam domains elsewhere since I can easily forward those, and I do need to use my domain to send from. But thats great information, thank you.

posted 2/28/2023, 3:36 pm

joined feb 17, 2023

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quoting avanix:

Been using Fastmail for many years. Fair price for what it provides, the webmail is decent too, but obviously you can use your own if that's your thing.

All round great service, support if you need it too.

+1 on Fastmail, I've been using them for 5+ years now with no issues

posted 2/28/2023, 4:30 pm

joined feb 16, 2023

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just a lil guy

joined feb 16, 2023

quoting orbitgaze:

+1 on Fastmail, I've been using them for 5+ years now with no issues

Another +1 here. I have a custom domain and they handle it really well. I've needed to reach out to customer support twice and both times they were excellent.

posted 3/8/2023, 4:03 pm

joined dec 4, 2022

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i just found out cloudflare has free email forwarding for domains using their nameservers, so you can almost get a gmail client for free if you just forward [email protected] to your personal email

and it'd be easy enough to just create a filter for incoming messages that were proxied by cloudflare

the amount of stuff cloudflare provides for free is insane to me

posted 3/11/2023, 9:56 am

joined feb 20, 2023

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pre-ground french roast

joined feb 20, 2023

quoting orchids:

i just found out cloudflare has free email forwarding for domains using their nameservers, so you can almost get a gmail client for free if you just forward [email protected] to your personal email

and it'd be easy enough to just create a filter for incoming messages that were proxied by cloudflare

the amount of stuff cloudflare provides for free is insane to me

So does Google Domains, although I wouldn't actually advocate for using them as a registrar now considering how hard it is to recover a lost/locked Google account. Ive been thinking about migrating all my domains over to Cloudflare, glad to know they offer the same thing.

posted 3/11/2023, 10:54 pm

joined feb 22, 2023

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I don't mean to be presumptuous, but I liken myself to the robber barons.

joined feb 22, 2023

Any thing other than google/outlook is waste of time, imagine wasting money on email providers when you can get the same for literally free

posted 3/14/2023, 10:03 am

joined feb 20, 2023

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pre-ground french roast

joined feb 20, 2023

quoting vrdvn:

Any thing other than google/outlook is waste of time, imagine wasting money on email providers when you can get the same for literally free

With your own domain you gain benefits such as:

  • Moving between providers

  • Encrypted email, that Google/Microsoft cant read at will

  • Highly customizable spam filters

  • Keep your email address even if the provider goes under

posted 3/14/2023, 9:36 pm

joined feb 17, 2023

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quoting vrdvn:

Any thing other than google/outlook is waste of time, imagine wasting money on email providers when you can get the same for literally free

imagine thinking anything is 'free'

posted 3/15/2023, 12:30 am

joined feb 22, 2023

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I don't mean to be presumptuous, but I liken myself to the robber barons.

joined feb 22, 2023

quoting coffeeofdoom:

With your own domain you gain benefits such as:

  • Moving between providers

  • Encrypted email, that Google/Microsoft cant read at will

  • Highly customizable spam filters

  • Keep your email address even if the provider goes under

Moving between providers Dont need to

Encrypted email, that Google/Microsoft cant read at will Imagine thinking that you are important enough for a multi trillion dollar company or NSA

Highly customizable spam filters You arent going to beat googles model thats trained to trillions of spam mails

Keep your email address even if the provider goes under Google is not going to go under

posted 3/22/2023, 11:08 am

joined feb 22, 2023

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I don't mean to be presumptuous, but I liken myself to the robber barons.

joined feb 22, 2023

quoting orbitgaze:

imagine thinking anything is 'free'

Explain why it isnt

posted 3/22/2023, 11:09 am

joined feb 23, 2023

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Jail?!

joined feb 23, 2023

I've been using runbox.com for email for several years. They work well most of the time. They have more downtime than I would like. Seems they get DDOS attacks in waves. My last signup was for 3 years, when it expires I'll maybe go to fastmail. My old Gmail forwards to it and using custom domains is very easy.

posted 3/22/2023, 3:17 pm

joined apr 6, 2023

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joined apr 6, 2023

i use gmail for job hunting and for my education but for casual usage i use Tutanota for making accounts on sites and forums i visit regularly. you can have a free account albeit with some limitations to it. pricings for it may vary depending on what you're gonna use tutanota for. https://tutanota.com/pricing the company tutanota came from is from Germany and i hear that country has strict laws on companies when data collecting is on the matter so i think its a safe bet that privacy plays a good role here for them.

posted 4/6/2023, 9:17 pm

joined apr 6, 2023

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I’ve been happy with Migadu.

posted 4/7/2023, 3:25 am

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:D

joined apr 6, 2023

Right now all I have is my personal gmail accounts, though I have used ProtonMail in the past and it's pretty good. I don't feel the need to use it at the moment, though I'll definitely go back to it if I do.

quoting RevD:

What is your overall experience with them though, and do you use their other services (calendar, storage, VPN)?

I've only used their VPN's free tier but it's pretty good. They don't do data caps on their free tier, they just restrict the server selection to either the US, Japan, and the Netherlands. Good if you're doing a lot but not the best if you just want to watch Argentinian Netflix.

posted 4/7/2023, 1:27 pm

joined feb 16, 2023

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Just to throw another +1 on fastmail. Incredibly reliable, works as it should. Especially the web interface. 10 out of 10.

posted 4/8/2023, 1:18 am

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posted 4/23/2023, 11:53 am

joined dec 10, 2023

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P, c, p!

joined dec 10, 2023

Paying for email hosting without any business revenue to justify it is the kind of decision that, perhaps, can be understood only by those who have tasted both the pride and the suffering of hosting their own mail. Having passed through this crucible, they transcend the e-go that drives most mortals, with their riced-out VPSes running identd so they can appear on IRC without a tilde in their hostmask and other such subtle markers of refined eliteness. They see no shame in letting someone else worry about deliverability for once. And the relief of finally giving in and accepting this trade-off can often blind them to the best and worst of mail host pricing. Such astronomical costs as six dollars per user per month can almost be made to seem not unreasonable, at least if you're the kind of person who gets off on taking advantage of poor souls traumatized by sendmail config. Once the marks have been primed with the pricing for whatever Google named their mail hosting service this year, they're all ripe and ready to jump at a dollar, dollar fifty, three bucks per user.

But I am here to tell you that the real scam is the very concept of paying per user, or per mailbox. This corresponds to no real overhead of any kind on the host's end. Why shouldn't you be able to create as many users as you want, you may have wondered at some point. What difference does it make? Well, those questions are absolutely correct. And that's why the future of mail hosting does indeed involve no such pricing structure. It's all about paying by disk space, or resource usage more broadly, whether you do it in one "mailbox" or 9,001.

I use Purelymail. Migadu, which was mentioned here already, also prices this way. MXRoute is an established provider in this sub-arena (check lowendtalk every so often and you should eventually have the chance to avoid paying full price for MXRoute services). Other hosts I've heard of that do the same include mailcheap.co, and postale.io.

edited 12/10/2023, 1:37 pm

joined feb 23, 2023

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Jail?!

joined feb 23, 2023

So when doing a switchover, is there a tool so that my new inbox can download the mails from my old providers inbox? I currently own a domain and pay for runbox.com email, but I'd like to switch. I know I'll do a DNS change to point to the new provider, but I haven't seen a clear-cut way to transfer my actual emails over. I don't want my old emails to just sit around in my thunderbird client locally.

I priced out what I want for eMail the other week and decided that Apple iCloud subscription gets me 50GB storage for $1/month personal use, which is pretty affordable compared to most others on a price-per-GB dimension.

posted 12/19/2023, 7:37 pm

joined jan 12, 2024

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taco queen

joined jan 12, 2024

I use zoho with my custom domain as the email address I use for communications with people, but I also use icloud (sometimes it's convenient to have a mainstream provider), and a proton account I've used for newsletters.

I'm considering it probably is a bit too much to have different email addresses, but honestly I don't consider myself to be techy enough to easily migrate my custom email addresses, quickly, in case I need to leave zoho, so the vital shit is linked to the icloud email... but maybe I'm overthinking and it's actually easy to migrate?.. tho I also know it is considered as a good practice to have different email addresses (and email aliases) for different purposes.

posted 2/22/2024, 6:48 am

software what email providers do you use/suggest?